Cross-examined by SERJEANT SHEE--On the occasion of the first examination you say you observed follicles under the tongue; are those pustules?--Not under the tongue, on the tongue. They are not pustules; they are large mucous follicles, not containing matter.
Is it a sort of thickening, then, of the skin?--Of the mucous follicles at the base of the tongue. They appeared to be of long standing, and were very numerous.
Do they indicate that there had been much soreness there?--I have no doubt they would produce inconvenience. They must have given some slight degree of pain in eating and speaking.
Will you undertake to say they were not enlarged glands, enlarged by the irritation of disease?--I do not believe they were; I have seen them frequently.
Do you adhere to your opinion that the lungs were healthy?--Yes.
Did not Mr. Devonshire, in your presence, express a contrary opinion, and say they were unhealthy?--He said he thought there was emphysema, as well as congestion of the lungs.
Is that not a diseased state of the lungs?--Yes, it is an abnormal state. I examined the white spots on the wider part of the stomach.
How did you examine them?--By removing the mucous that was on the surface of the stomach by the finger or scalpel. I had no lens, no glass. I should have examined them with a lens if I had had one.
Was your examination of these appearances satisfactory to you without a lens?--Yes.
You said that the brain was healthy; what sort of examination did you make of the brain?--The brain was carefully taken out; the external part was first of all examined; the membranes were examined, and slices were taken off from the apex to the base of the brain. These slices were, I should think, a quarter of an inch thick.
Is that as thick as it should be to make a full examination?--I think that would show any disease if there was any. The spinal cord was examined down to the first vertebra, and we found no appearance of disease.
Supposing you had discovered a softness of the spinal cord on that occasion, after a full examination, might not that have been sufficient to account for the death of Mr. Cook?--No, certainly not; softening would not produce tetanus at all; it might produce paralysis.