Mr. JENNER. Tell me what he said about giving up his citizenship. I want to hear all about that.
Mr. JENNER. Yes; what did he say about defecting to Russia; anything he said about that?
Mrs. EVANS. He said he didn't give up his American citizenship; that that was ridiculous. He told me that he just wanted to see the country over there, and he had gotten work over there, and that he had fallen in love with this girl, and we talked about the difference in the housing here and over there, and he told me that they didn't pay any rent, and they had a modern apartment, I think, about on the fourth floor.
Mr. JENNER. Did he say it was only one room; that there was only one room to this apartment?
Mrs. EVANS. Well, he said they had a living room, a bedroom, a dining room.
Mrs. EVANS. Yes; he said they had a nice place to live over there.
Mrs. EVANS. Yes; he told me it was an apartment, but he said he had to live with other men in one room prior to the time he was married.
Mr. JENNER. When he said apartment, you assumed that he meant several rooms--a bedroom, kitchen, and so forth; isn't that right?
Mr. JENNER. But you don't know that, do you, Mrs. Evans?
Mrs. EVANS. Oh, no; I don't know that. I have never been to Russia. All I know is what he told me.
Mr. JENNER. But do you remember him distinctly telling you that his apartment had all of these rooms?
Mrs. EVANS. No; I don't remember that. He just said it was a modern apartment. I remember him saying that. It could have been just one room.
Mrs. EVANS. Well, like I say, I just don't know. He said it was a modern apartment, but other than that I don't know what else he said, I mean, whether he described it any more than that or not, or whether I even asked him any more about it.
Mr. JENNER. But he did use the word "apartment," is that right?
Mrs. EVANS. Yes; he said they had an apartment; I remember that very plainly, and he said it was modern, but other than that I don't know.
Mr. JENNER. But he didn't describe the apartment, as far as you can recall?
Mrs. EVANS. That's right; I don't remember him doing that.
Mr. JENNER. And he didn't deny at any time to you that he had attempted to defect, but that he had failed?
Mr. JENNER. Did he say he had not attempted to defect?